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		<title>By: Rob Snell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Snell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 05:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howdy, all! Thanks for your comments!

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Are links from your affiliates valuable in this regard?
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1) &lt;strong&gt;Mr. Whitaker&lt;/strong&gt; -- Howdy! I think &lt;em&gt;ANY&lt;/em&gt; affiliate links would help.  If the links point directly to your domain, or Y! URLs, Y! redirects or not, I think there would be SEO benefits. 

CJ.com? Not so much because they go through proxies and don&#039;t look like links to search engine robots.

Right now I&#039;m looking into SEO-friendly Yahoo! Store affiliate programs/networks. Anyone know any programs we should know about? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
One quick question… where the heck is my link in your story. Names are great but a little link goes a long way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

2) &lt;strong&gt;Surf City Tom&lt;/strong&gt; --  See? You get it. If you don&#039;t ask, you don&#039;t get. Your link is forthcoming.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
If you’ve ever talked to Rob in person or on the phone about Yahoo Store strategies, it’s like trying to drink from a firehose!
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3) &lt;strong&gt; Clean Air Gardening&lt;/strong&gt;  -- Thanks, Lars! I like to talk about this stuff!

Sad thing is that Yahoo! Store-centric Internet marketing is pretty much all I think about almost all the time nowdays! 

Just tonight my girlfriend was giving me a hard time about how excited I get about advanced operators for search engines, (&quot;What&#039;s so cool about the SITE: operator?&quot;), but as you will see in a moment...

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Tom, If we let Rob link to everyone he knows, then every other word in his posts would be a link likely.
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4) &lt;strong&gt;Paul&lt;/strong&gt; -- Well, maybe if they bought multiple copies of my book.

OK, how &#039;bout this IDEA: I think Y! should have a Y! Merchants&#039; Association where we CROSS PROMOTE each others&#039; stores, not just trade links. I mean, other than a pretty much bullet-proof platform, toll-free customer support, and an army of dedicated CSRs what do we get for our revshare $$$? ;)

Say we all pick 20 noncompetitive but somehow related stores and integrate links within our CAPTIONS where it makes sense. I do that already on some of our stores. Not swapping links, per se, but for example, saying we carry one muzzle, but our friends at Morrco.com have 27 different varieties...

For example, a quick search on Yahoo for &lt;strong&gt;site:stores.yahoo.net &lt;em&gt;dog&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; reveals about 23,700 pages of folks selling stuff for dogs. 

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu5sEdudGwQ0BgbVXNyoA?p=site%3Astores.yahoo.net+dog&amp;y=Search&amp;fr=yfp-t-501
And these are just the folks NOT using the 301 redirect! (Shame!)

It would be pretty easy for Y! to set up a marketplace of 5-Star or established merchants and each have a list of the 10 things THEY want promoted.

5) &lt;strong&gt;Scott&lt;/strong&gt; -- Thanks, dude! Just channeling a little redneck magic. Give me a holler, sometime.


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As a beginner in this thing, I do have one question - is it really true that low quality links could actually hurt the ranking?
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6) &lt;strong&gt;Dog Clothing Company folks &lt;strong&gt;  -- Thanks! Disclaimer: This is just my opinion here, &lt;em&gt;but I think that if a majority of links to a site are &quot;low quality&quot; (whatever that means!) they certainly won&#039;t help that site.&lt;/em&gt; What percentage of your links have to be high quality to earn you &quot;trust&quot; from Google? I would say more than half.

I define &quot;low quality links&quot; as links from sites with no authority, no pagerank/link juice, no unique content, no value to site visitors, etc. Think: scraper sites reurgitating search engine results pages, spammy blog comments, trackback spam, or guestbook links, etc.

&lt;strong&gt;Quick do&#039;s and don&#039;ts:&lt;/strong&gt; Do get buy a link in the Yahoo! directory ($299 a year). Do submit your site ONCE to the proper category in the DMOZ.org, but don&#039;t sweat it if you don&#039;t get in at first. Sponsor forums and affinity sites. That&#039;ll get you some links. Participate in forums and answer questions. Ask everyone you know who has a related site if they&#039;ll link to you.

Don&#039;t start a huge reciprocal link campaign where you swap links with everyone and everyone. Don&#039;t buy links where you&#039;re paying more for the link than the direct traffic would be worth. Don&#039;t get links from sites that link to porn, pills, or casinos.  

Mr. Matt Cutts across the street over at Google has always said that what OTHER sites do can&#039;t 
hurt you, so if you believe that (and I pretty much do), I think you&#039;ll be okay if your site has some low quality links.

Always be getting those links! 

Rob Snell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howdy, all! Thanks for your comments!</p>
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Are links from your affiliates valuable in this regard?
</p></blockquote>
<p>1) <strong>Mr. Whitaker</strong> &#8212; Howdy! I think <em>ANY</em> affiliate links would help.  If the links point directly to your domain, or Y! URLs, Y! redirects or not, I think there would be SEO benefits. </p>
<p>CJ.com? Not so much because they go through proxies and don&#8217;t look like links to search engine robots.</p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m looking into SEO-friendly Yahoo! Store affiliate programs/networks. Anyone know any programs we should know about? </p>
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One quick question… where the heck is my link in your story. Names are great but a little link goes a long way.</p></blockquote>
<p>2) <strong>Surf City Tom</strong> &#8212;  See? You get it. If you don&#8217;t ask, you don&#8217;t get. Your link is forthcoming.</p>
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If you’ve ever talked to Rob in person or on the phone about Yahoo Store strategies, it’s like trying to drink from a firehose!
</p></blockquote>
<p>3) <strong> Clean Air Gardening</strong>  &#8212; Thanks, Lars! I like to talk about this stuff!</p>
<p>Sad thing is that Yahoo! Store-centric Internet marketing is pretty much all I think about almost all the time nowdays! </p>
<p>Just tonight my girlfriend was giving me a hard time about how excited I get about advanced operators for search engines, (&#8221;What&#8217;s so cool about the SITE: operator?&#8221;), but as you will see in a moment&#8230;</p>
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Tom, If we let Rob link to everyone he knows, then every other word in his posts would be a link likely.
</p></blockquote>
<p>4) <strong>Paul</strong> &#8212; Well, maybe if they bought multiple copies of my book.</p>
<p>OK, how &#8217;bout this IDEA: I think Y! should have a Y! Merchants&#8217; Association where we CROSS PROMOTE each others&#8217; stores, not just trade links. I mean, other than a pretty much bullet-proof platform, toll-free customer support, and an army of dedicated CSRs what do we get for our revshare $$$? <img src='http://www.ystoreblog.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Say we all pick 20 noncompetitive but somehow related stores and integrate links within our CAPTIONS where it makes sense. I do that already on some of our stores. Not swapping links, per se, but for example, saying we carry one muzzle, but our friends at Morrco.com have 27 different varieties&#8230;</p>
<p>For example, a quick search on Yahoo for <strong>site:stores.yahoo.net <em>dog</em></strong> reveals about 23,700 pages of folks selling stuff for dogs. </p>
<p><a href="http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu5sEdudGwQ0BgbVXNyoA?p=site%3Astores.yahoo.net+dog&amp;y=Search&amp;fr=yfp-t-501" rel="nofollow">http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu5sEdudGwQ0BgbVXNyoA?p=site%3Astores.yahoo.net+dog&amp;y=Search&amp;fr=yfp-t-501</a><br />
And these are just the folks NOT using the 301 redirect! (Shame!)</p>
<p>It would be pretty easy for Y! to set up a marketplace of 5-Star or established merchants and each have a list of the 10 things THEY want promoted.</p>
<p>5) <strong>Scott</strong> &#8212; Thanks, dude! Just channeling a little redneck magic. Give me a holler, sometime.</p>
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As a beginner in this thing, I do have one question &#8211; is it really true that low quality links could actually hurt the ranking?
</p></blockquote>
<p>6) <strong>Dog Clothing Company folks </strong><strong>  &#8212; Thanks! Disclaimer: This is just my opinion here, <em>but I think that if a majority of links to a site are &#8220;low quality&#8221; (whatever that means!) they certainly won&#8217;t help that site.</em> What percentage of your links have to be high quality to earn you &#8220;trust&#8221; from Google? I would say more than half.</p>
<p>I define &#8220;low quality links&#8221; as links from sites with no authority, no pagerank/link juice, no unique content, no value to site visitors, etc. Think: scraper sites reurgitating search engine results pages, spammy blog comments, trackback spam, or guestbook links, etc.</p>
<p></strong><strong>Quick do&#8217;s and don&#8217;ts:</strong> Do get buy a link in the Yahoo! directory ($299 a year). Do submit your site ONCE to the proper category in the DMOZ.org, but don&#8217;t sweat it if you don&#8217;t get in at first. Sponsor forums and affinity sites. That&#8217;ll get you some links. Participate in forums and answer questions. Ask everyone you know who has a related site if they&#8217;ll link to you.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t start a huge reciprocal link campaign where you swap links with everyone and everyone. Don&#8217;t buy links where you&#8217;re paying more for the link than the direct traffic would be worth. Don&#8217;t get links from sites that link to porn, pills, or casinos.  </p>
<p>Mr. Matt Cutts across the street over at Google has always said that what OTHER sites do can&#8217;t<br />
hurt you, so if you believe that (and I pretty much do), I think you&#8217;ll be okay if your site has some low quality links.</p>
<p>Always be getting those links! </p>
<p>Rob Snell</p>
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		<title>By: The Dog Clothing Company</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dog Clothing Company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Rob, for such a great review on link building! As a beginner in this thing, I do have one question - is it really true that low quality links could actually hurt the ranking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Rob, for such a great review on link building! As a beginner in this thing, I do have one question &#8211; is it really true that low quality links could actually hurt the ranking?</p>
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		<title>By: BostonScott</title>
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		<dc:creator>BostonScott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Rob. What a talent you have for finding practical solutions to important problems.

The links from these vendors are especially valuable because they are among the most relevant types of links you can get. Think of all of the people who link to the manufacturer as the authority on a certain product. Well, if that manufacturer then links to you, you start becoming an authority as well. At least that is how Google works… Google looks at these relationships (who links to the people who link to the people who link to you). Don’t get me wrong – in the link game quantity is important, but quality and relevance is paramount. When “quantity” converges with “quality” seo rankings go through the roof.

To the questions above – naked links matter, but all links are not equal. Some links matter more than others and for different reasons. Evaluate who links to the site that will link to you. Evaluate their site content. Evaluate HOW they link to you. All of those factors should be considered when answering the question – are “affiliate links valuable.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Rob. What a talent you have for finding practical solutions to important problems.</p>
<p>The links from these vendors are especially valuable because they are among the most relevant types of links you can get. Think of all of the people who link to the manufacturer as the authority on a certain product. Well, if that manufacturer then links to you, you start becoming an authority as well. At least that is how Google works… Google looks at these relationships (who links to the people who link to the people who link to you). Don’t get me wrong – in the link game quantity is important, but quality and relevance is paramount. When “quantity” converges with “quality” seo rankings go through the roof.</p>
<p>To the questions above – naked links matter, but all links are not equal. Some links matter more than others and for different reasons. Evaluate who links to the site that will link to you. Evaluate their site content. Evaluate HOW they link to you. All of those factors should be considered when answering the question – are “affiliate links valuable.”</p>
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		<title>By: pboisver</title>
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		<dc:creator>pboisver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael&lt;br /&gt;
Rob&#039;s checking with his SEO contacts on this question. Naked links would seem to pass some value but then again it may depend on how the links are presented--in other words if it looks spammy it may be interpreted as spammy. In terms of links with redirects, the answer may be it depends. There are likely ways that wouldn&#039;t be seen as shady but also a chance the links may be seen as such. 

Tom&lt;br /&gt;
If we let Rob link to everyone he knows, then every other word in his posts would be a link likely. 

Lars&lt;br /&gt;Glad to hear this tip was useful. I asked Rob to write it up knowing that it sounded like a novel starting place for link building and given that off-page factors are very important.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael<br />
Rob&#8217;s checking with his SEO contacts on this question. Naked links would seem to pass some value but then again it may depend on how the links are presented&#8211;in other words if it looks spammy it may be interpreted as spammy. In terms of links with redirects, the answer may be it depends. There are likely ways that wouldn&#8217;t be seen as shady but also a chance the links may be seen as such. </p>
<p>Tom<br />
If we let Rob link to everyone he knows, then every other word in his posts would be a link likely. </p>
<p>Lars<br />Glad to hear this tip was useful. I asked Rob to write it up knowing that it sounded like a novel starting place for link building and given that off-page factors are very important.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Clean Air Gardening</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clean Air Gardening</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pure genius, as usual. Thanks Rob. 

Seem obvious now, but if it was, then why didn&#039;t I ever think of it before?

If you&#039;ve ever talked to Rob in person or on the phone about Yahoo Store strategies, it&#039;s like trying to drink from a firehose! 

He can take one glance at your site and tell you 15 things to do off the top of his head. (Meanwhile, you&#039;re busy trying to write them all down before they go into one ear and out the other and are lost forever.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pure genius, as usual. Thanks Rob. </p>
<p>Seem obvious now, but if it was, then why didn&#8217;t I ever think of it before?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve ever talked to Rob in person or on the phone about Yahoo Store strategies, it&#8217;s like trying to drink from a firehose! </p>
<p>He can take one glance at your site and tell you 15 things to do off the top of his head. (Meanwhile, you&#8217;re busy trying to write them all down before they go into one ear and out the other and are lost forever.)</p>
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		<title>By: Surf City Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surf City Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, thanks for the tips and as always I need to get after the links that are available.  One quick question... where the heck is my link in your story. Names are great but a little link goes a long way. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, thanks for the tips and as always I need to get after the links that are available.  One quick question&#8230; where the heck is my link in your story. Names are great but a little link goes a long way. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Whitaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Whitaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are links from your &lt;b&gt;affiliates&lt;/b&gt; valuable in this regard? I guess that those affiliate links that redirect don&#039;t count, but some affiliate networks (such as Link Connector) offer &lt;b&gt;naked links&lt;/b&gt; whereby the affiliate site uses the merchant&#039;s URL directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are links from your <b>affiliates</b> valuable in this regard? I guess that those affiliate links that redirect don&#8217;t count, but some affiliate networks (such as Link Connector) offer <b>naked links</b> whereby the affiliate site uses the merchant&#8217;s URL directly.</p>
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